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    Water pressure in house

    Have a 30/50 system with a Amtrol WX2021K water tank. Pump comes on at 28psi and off at 50psi. New pressure guage shows 48psi at idle. Problem is the house pressure is still to low. Could the bladder have a hole in it causing this condition. If there is a way to check bladder without dismantle, it would be helpful. Also have a fairly new water softner but the system has been working well until the last day or so. Reading all info, it seems if the bladder has a leak would it cause the low pressure in the house?

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    The bladder tank will not effect pressure when the pump is running. Only when it is off. And then it will be only what is on the gauge. If the bladder goes bad, the pump motor will cycle rapidly.

    I would look to the softener for a restriction of some sort. Try bypassing the unit and see if the pressure improves. If not, try adding air to the tank then setting up the pressure switch.

    Click the link below to find out how to set up a bladder tank.

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    Bob,

    I dare recommend that you add a section on your Website regarding the difference between Flow and Pressure. It will be handy for DIY's to diagnose their problems and for us to help them along.


    Bill,

    I concur with Bob that there might be some debris caught on the softener causing a flow obstruction. If you could purchase a pressure gauge with a bib coupler and take a reading at any point after the softener. With all the fixtures closed; if the pressure reading is similar to the gauge reading on the pressure tank; but it drops significantly (more than 40% off) once a faucet is opened on the system; then you have an obstruction. Work your way backwards to determine the probable location. The softener or any other filter, valve, etc. are the most likely candidates.

    Hope this helps,

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    That's a good idea David.

    Would you like to write it? I have an idea you can explain it better than I can. Then I'll post it on the FAQ page and we can direct folks there like I do so often for bladder tanks etc. Saves a lot of typing.

    If you don't have time, I'll take a stab at it and you can proof read it.

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    I'll post a roughdraft tomorrow and you can polish it and add some graphics.

    I believe the following should be covered:

    Pressure
    Flow
    Speed
    Friction
    Head


    Do you think it might be too much of a gobble for DIY's?

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    That probably depends on how much we get into detail. Maybe we can add an Advanced button.

    I do agree with the outline.

    I do know when I'm surfing around, I tend to look for a quick explanation. If it seems to be pages, I keep looking. I think people want the simple answer not one that explains everything, just one that kind of answers their question on their level.

    Sorry to steal hour thread Bill. I hope we didn't lose you in the shuffle.
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    Solved the low pressure problem. Per your instructions by-passed the watersoftner, not the problem, removed the filter to the watersoftner and found it to be full of sand. Talked to a well expert and he seems to think the well point has given out. Have two wells on property and will be tieing both together at house with check valves. Also will try to open the void in the well by having the pump run wide open and see if it creates a larger void by pumping out the sand at the problem point. Again thanks for your help.

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    There is no such thing as pumping out a void Bill. Voids are called sink holes. If the well is pumping a lot of sand, either the wrong screen was installed, or you have a hole in it or the casing.
    Sometimes if the well is new, it has to be pumped to clear up the very fine sand, so the heavier sand can gather around the point.

    It sounds like you have a Kinetico water softener. They are the only ones I know that require a filter in front of their filter.

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    I put spin down 20# screen filters in front of all my well instalations and "Y" strainers on my municipal systems. I've had pieces of PVC pipe, stones, cigarette butts, sticks, saw blades, and other interesting stuff clog valve pistons. This causes damage to seals, pistons, motors and transmitions.

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    What kind of wells do you have over there David? If we found things like that in the wells here nobody would use the water. We would have a dirty water revolution on our hands.

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