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    How deep can you go

    My partner just bought a property that is on the other side of the road of a spring fed lake. He is approx 80 feet higher than the lake and the pipe to the lake is 200 feet long. It is impossible for us to use a submersible pump as the lake is surrounded with private property and access to the lake is very limited. We managed to have permission to burry a pipe (it is 1/2" flexible water line). We tried to get water by way of sucking it up to the property with a piston pump yesterday and the pump was not strong enough to pull. we were told today that we are out of luck, that there is no way to get water up there unless we install a submersible pump (or have a point installed in the ground) We have heard from neighbours around the lake that efforts have not been successful in getting good water from the ground. the best water is from the lake itself due to the sping water feeding it... do you know of any other solution?... we would like to know if there is a pump out there that will pull water 80 feet up..even manually would be okay.. we need water there..

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    It's not a matter of a pump being strong enough. It is a law of physics. A pump pulls a vacuum and atmospheric pressure pushes the water up into the vacuum. Twenty five feet is the maximum vertical height that can be expected.

    Half inch pipe is way too small also. The amount of water coming out the other end even with a submersible will be minimal to say the least.

    You can put a jet pump at the bottom and push it up, but still a very small amount at the other end of that 1/2" pipe. This would of coarse mean getting electric to the pump, same as with a submersible.

    If there are springs feeding the lake, it is the spring (so to speak) that a well driller will get the water from in a well.

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    Although I'm not wild about jet pumps... You should be able to get a two line, deep well jet, to work since the elevation is 80'. Then you don't need electric down to the lake. Bob can fix you up with one and the tubing required and the j-body etc..

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    He said he only has 1 - 1/2" pipe running the 200 feet Gary, so that one is out. Even if he had two of them, the friction loss would probably prohibit the jet from working. There wouldn't be enough velocity to operate it.

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    Thanks a bunch guys... just wanted to be sure there is no other alternatives before he spends on digging a well... ... for all of you who know what its about.. let me just say that we will be filling 45 gal drums and using that for the time being.. that should be a blast !!..

    Thanks for the advice
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    Yeah but... lol I meant he could re-trench to the lake and use the proper ID tubing (1" and 1.25") and go with a two line jet pump at the cabin/house.

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    Sorry Gary, I thought you may have misread his post like I do all the time.

    He could go with the two pipe jet, but I'm like you, I am not fond of them.

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    No Problem, I do the same thing all the time, but I can claim it's due to my age...

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    Yup, me too. I use that one all the time. It doesn't do me any good, but it makes me feel better.

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    This 2 pipe jet pump idea is intreguing... can you go in more detail as to how that works... we may be able to modify the pipe we have in the ground now (seeing the neighbour still likes us for now)..lol..
    So I get that we need 2 seperate pipes that run from the cabin to the lake.. those pipes should be 1" to 1 1/2" big. Then the pump you are talking about is what exactly. Cuz what I know about jet pumps, they don't take 2 pipes...(okay.. just had a dirty though 2 pipes.. one hole.. no good). And this pump would be installed at the cabin?.. My "chum" is interested, he just can't type.. lol.. more info would be good.. THank in advance

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