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    well pump issues :(

    Hi all,

    My father had a problem with his well not working anymore. This is a 30+ yr old well, the drill depth is 157 feet.
    We took of the red top of the well and about 4 or 5 feet we saw some type of cap with 3 electrical wires commming out, a steel wire and a threaded hole. I left for the day, due to work and well will messing with it, he some how dropped that cap/casing down the well, it's right under 50 feet
    well 2 weeks later we was able to get a 1 inch plastic pipe threaded into that hole and tried to pull it out, it would not move at all, so i'm guess something is locked into the side of the 4 inche well pipe. How in the heck can we get that to release to lift it up, i know that plastic pipe(he got from a friend that had just retired from installing wells). My dad is a retired electrician and has a lot of left over 1 inch piping that is very strong and heavy we could us to pull it out.

    Any suggestion. I place a makeshift camera down the well and at 4/5 ft there is a ridge in the pipe,,,then at about 30 feet another one, and at 40.....

    Any ideas on how to pull this out since it seems it's locked in?

    thanks

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    There are lots of things that could be holding it there. My advice is to call a licensed experienced Well Driller with a pump hoist that has fishing tools and a walking beam on his rig. Otherwise you might as well call him to drill you a new well.

    I would have never have gone fishing with plastic pipe. That's just something else to lose down there.

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    Well we would love to do that, but every well company we called. they just want to drill a new well, None of them even want to try to get it out,

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    I'd do it if you were just a little closer, but the ride to your house might be a bit costly.

    Too bad none of these guys are interested. I don't understand their reasoning. You didn't ask them how much!

    If you want to try it yourself, you need metal pipe, like galvanized 1" Sch 40 pipe. Screw into it and try bumping up on the pipe. I don't know how to tell you to do this, but bumping is far more effective than just pulling. Put tension on it and bump it. Turning it with a big wrench (clockwise) may help to loosen it also.

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    thanks for the help info.

    never said anything about cost at all, It seems they'd rater get the 6 to 8k for new well then try to attempt to get this one out. They told us we'd NEVER be able to even get the pipe threaded down that far

    Anyone know of any good well companies around central il or so that would be willing to at least attempt this?

    on and that plastic pipe i said, i should have explained it more, it's 1 inch pvc pipe that is in 20 foot sections, it what my dads friend used for yrs on wells...

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    The PVC is fine for using as droppipe, but for fishing something out of a well, you need steel pipe.

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    Thanks for all your help.

    as in bumping, do you mean like to lift up, and then down on the pipe. My dad talked to his friend this afternoon and said after we had the galvanized pipe in(which we do now) he'd bring over the truck hoist and try to pull it out. so in your eyes what would be the best way to describe this bumping process to him with the truck?

    thanks again for all your help....

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    I do it with a set of jars and my walking beam. The walking beam on the pump hoist goes up and down with the rope looped around it making the pipe go up and down about once per second. The jars, are a tool that can slide inside of themselves so that you can hammer up and down on an object in the well with the help of the walking beam. They also have a taper tap on the end to grab whatever female object we are going after. Check out the image below.


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    Okay, thanks for your help. I will print out this and show try to explain to the well people when they come.

    Thanks again!!

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    That to all the helped with this issue. My parents now again have running water!. to get that pull level we put down some small plastic type(outside electric pipe). and put a hook on the end of that. fished for awhile. and then was able to catch it. Orginial well person would not be able to get there till next week some time, dad called another guy, he came out with his son, just had a tripod, pull the pump right out. from the pitless down 90 feet was steel pipe(not pvc water pipe).
    oh and talk about luck the only possible way to get that release cable, was where it looped around the arm, about an 1/4
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